yes_justice: (Already Against The Next War)
John Kevin Fabiani ([personal profile] yes_justice) wrote2008-11-05 11:52 pm

Another bombed Afghan wedding.

37 killed and 35 wounded when American planes bomb Afghan wedding party.
"37 civilians including 10 women, 23 children were killed and 35 others including the bride wounded in the bombing and firing of Coalition forces which lasted from 2 p.m. Monday until late that night."
Afghan children receive treatment at a local hospital in Kandahar Nov. 5, 2008.
I fail to see how this does anything but make people hate us.
President Hamid Karzai said the issue of civilian casualties was the biggest source of tension with his main backers, the United States, and called on President-elect Barack Obama to make it his top priority to stop the killings of innocents.
We've been slaughtering people by the thousands for the last seven years in that country. You'd think we were even by now.

[identity profile] substitute.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
I was talking to a tough guy ex Marine friend of mine tonight, a guy who was in the Gulf War. He surprised me.

He said he is not only resolutely anti-war, he can't stand the idea of a fight. "Everything is so vulnerable. You can push someone the wrong way and he's dead or worse."

How can we make more people see that?

"You'd think we were even by now."

[identity profile] iblis-kukl.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
One would think that, but this is America, so we can't quit till we're at least half a million up on 'em.

eliazar

[identity profile] lahermite.livejournal.com 2008-11-06 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
i realize that the "enemy" is hiding out in afghan and pakistan and that we need to kill them (there's sarcasm there), but it really really concerns me to hear that we're going to go in there to do this. haven't we demolished these regions enough? haven't we dropped enough depleted uranium on them to give them cancers for the next millenia? how many more innocent people are going to die in the name of killing the "enemy".

all rhetorical questions, of course. i just don't understand it all anymore.

[identity profile] k8to.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm.. One response is that if there was a concrete enemy group that the way to end their machinations would be to move in with infantry and round them up. Of course this would incur significant casualties among the american troops. It's more politically viable to have innocent third parties die than americans.

As for the whole idiological battles via military force... I have no idea about that one. Bread & circuses?